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Thursday March 16th 2023

Two good Wednesday winners - well done. If I've left anyone out, I apologise; please leave a message on this thread and I'll update.

38 comments

38 Comments

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

Willie Mullins on Billaway's chances in the Foxhunters tomorrow: "the new riding rules could hamper his rider as this horse needs plenty of cajoling."

Jonathan Dawe

Mar 16

Fugitif placed at 11's.

David

Mar 16

Prince Dundee wins at 13/2 in a cracking staying chase at Hexham.

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

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I just rewatched it and it really was a thriller. They were almost going up and down on the spot up that fearsome climb to the finish. Prince Dundee looked the least likely of the four to win two out but his courage was tremendous. Pity there were no effects microphones on course or we would have heard the famous Hexham roar!

David

Mar 16

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i know it was Cheltenham but that was by miles best race of day - Especially as i picked winner!

GazP

Mar 17

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Easy the best, David, superb race....

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

Sire Du Berlais, what a star. The first time he ever won was this day for years ago when landing a gamble in the Pertemps final. Since then he has fought some wars at extreme distances, danced every dance and always gives of his best. To win this race at 11 is extraordinary - even as very much the Elliott second string.

Tom Jolliffe

Mar 16

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I posted a piece in the Guardian about a punter who had Sire Du Berlais and Dashel Drasher at odds of 320-1 and 80-1 respectively. I think I'd use the over used "legendary" to describe his ability to antepost and come up trumps. He's on The Racing Forum and posts as Venture to Cognac. He took those prices in January.

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

It's harder than ever to get multiple bets on this week - at least that's my experience. I'm either hugely restricted in stake size or prevented from placing a bet at all. Has anyone else found this? (I'm talking about Hills, Paddy, Unibet; the Stoke outfit will lay me especially if I have a big single on at the same time.)

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

Goodness me, the Irish handicapper really crucified Maxxum this season. He won a little Navan handicap doing handsprings, and it must have been the style of that victory that put their backs up because they gave the horse 17lbs for that. Nothing has come out of that race and the form is weak. Maxxum followed up in a Pertemps qualifier, a much deeper race but not all the horses were trying to win, and dotted up by 16 lengths. Bang - another 18lbs for the pleasure. Suddenly he was forced into 0-150 company and came 12th at Leopardstown. The UK handicapper thought he needed another 7lbs for today's Pertemps final and unsurprisingly floundered under a welter burden. Astonishing that he was backed into 9/2 - I can only assume there are punters on course with money to burn. Gordon Elliott is known to have the odd grumble about the unfairness of life but he surely has a case here.

el gran senor

Mar 16

Salvador Ziggy placed 14.10. Cheltenham at 10/1.

el gran senor

Mar 16

Salvador Ziggy. 14.10. Cheltenham.

el gran senor

Mar 16

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Should have said e.w.

Highflying

Mar 16

Ballykeel ew - 17.30 Cheltenham

jakebuckfast

Mar 16

Myburg 5.10 Hexham is the nap,well done yesterday EGS.

Jonathan Dawe

Mar 16

Fugitif each way in the 16:10 at Cheltenham

Robicheaux7

Mar 16

Itchy feet ew. Cheltenham 2.10.

GForce

Mar 16

Nap Chelts 1650 Foxy Girl

Can't believe Rachel is riding this for the name rather than the narrative.

David

Mar 16

Hexham and Cheltenham today - lovely. Nap is Prince Dundee at Hex 15.50

David

Mar 16

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i was rather led by Stable form and its CD winner though not on heavy - its drifting so i think you may be right.....

David

Mar 16

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Didnt cut up too much - Cracking race, have to admire those stayers. Really brave from Prince Dundee getting up on line after 4 mile!

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

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Well done, good tip. Lucinda's cup runneth over. Looking at PD's Ayr win, that form looks strong with two other horses coming out and winning subsequently - including Lucinda's Without Conviction!

Leo

Mar 16

2.50 Cheltenham - Janidil

GazP

Mar 16

Nikhi 1.50H.

john987

Mar 16

14.10 Cheltenham Coltor ew

RobJ

Mar 16

Didn't get chance to post anything yesterday after Tuesday's successes.

Hopefully we can find something today.

Win nap is mighty potter (boring I know) 13:30

E/w fancies are captain morgs 14:10 (skybet paying first 8), Paisley park (if he turns up in the mood) 15:10 (skybet paying 4 places), frero banbou 16:10 (skybet paying 7 places) princess Zoe 16:50 (skybet paying 5 places) and finally dunboyne 17:30 (skybet paying 6 places.

Good luck.

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

I think that there's little doubt that the heavily backed Gerri Colombe just failed to get up in the Brown Advisory NC because young Jordan Gainford was unsure how many strikes of the whip he had left in the closing stages. A stride after the post GC was a neck to the good. This is not to say that the winner did not run a terrifically game race having put in an exhibition round of jumping. But under the previous rules Gerri Colombe would have won, so the result was affected by factors beyond the jockey's control. The bookmakers were the beneficiaries, not racing. And the pledge was that the rule change was meant to "make racing look better". Satisfied now, BHA?

Tom Jolliffe

Mar 16

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Harry, that's just your interpretation of what you saw, it is not established fact. You have bolted your theory on to the events. It would be good to have the opinion of the jockey, rather than attempt to read his mind. There may be merit in what you say, but it all hinged on the jockey remembering what the maximum number of strikes is, something which had to be remembered previously. And the winning jockey stuck to the rules.

My recollection is that AP McCoy criticised the jockey's ride as he let the winner get too far ahead and timed his effort too late.

Harrytheactor

Mar 16

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I was stating what Gainford reported to Gordon Elliott in his post-race debrief. AP McCoy earns his corn by criticising jockeys now and were he still riding today would have his own difficulties with the whip rules. His Cheltenham festival ride on Wichita Lineman - often cited as one of the most brilliant of all time - would under these rules incur a long ban.

Tom Jolliffe

Mar 17

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Thanks Harry. I'd be interested to see that, where did you find it? I don't disagree with you about AP McCoy.

el gran senor

Mar 15

We done to Jake with Langer Dan as he his one of those Hardy perennials. I looked at him for a f

el gran senor

Mar 15

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Full 30 s before moving on but had.an ominous feeling in

David

Mar 16

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we all do that pretty often...the horse we know we;ve backed before....still might have a chance. On plus side we only remember the ones that go on to win so i suspect we are all quid's in on that front