@Harrytheactor Harry, he had a dodgy frame. Too much weight above to support his spindly legs and he would always go wrong. It was still the best ride of Eddery in that Race.
This idea that Simply Great would have won is Heresy and only Jonathan in Florida might support that view.
Nobody would have survived that finish.
SMS made a fatal mistake this week in my view by saying a winner of the Dante doesn't need to improve to win the Derby. I believe he cursed Desert Crown by saying that as young Horses can be different the next week.
@el gran senor there was I on my last mental health session discussing the trauma of Simply Great and now you've caused another 5 years of weekly visits to the psychiatrist.
@el gran senor Traditionally the Dante was always seen as perhaps the most reliable trial for the Derby (especially by SMS and Henry Cecil, both multiple winners of both races), but it has rather lost its gloss in recent years - as has the Derby itself. The last to win at Epsom was I think Golden Horn, and he was an above average winner of the Derby (and the last one to prove really exceptional) at the start of his annus mirabilis of 2015. But in truth a horse that wins a trial in May is going to improve next time out, so you would expect Desert Crown to come on for his Dante outing. He certainly needs to if he is going to be in the three on Saturday in my view. I keep coming back to Stone Age if it rides quick and the 3 Applebys if it will be a stamina test. But those who have Stone Age at 13/8 in their tissue are crackers. He's more like 4/1 as we speak.
Fleursals 4.37 Uttoxeter is the nap,well done yesterdays winners.It is goood to see Tinto enjoying his change of stable and coming back to his best form.
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John Egan’s comments were spot on. He may have gone further as we do not know what was edited out.
I have banged on many times about the industry being run solely for the benefit of the bookies.
British horse racing is a Serpent’s Tail and Egan’s analogy with dog racing is spot on.
You can tell how bad the racing is by simply considering how difficult it is some days to put up a nap on this blog.
I doubt that many of us actually back what we put up each day.
I can’t see a solution, because the only one is a withdrawal of services by owners and trainers. Don’t enter your horses for substandard races and meetings. However, this will never happen because it needs 100% commitment and there will be those who seek to take advantage by still running.
However, imagine cards where there are 7 races of walkovers. The industry would have to react then.
The rower officially left the BHA yesterday and duly got the customary praise dished out for " the outstanding contribution etc etc " when in fact she was as much use to the game as Pogba was to Utd whose also gone after costing a bomb for little or no return similarly.Her replacement has been sourced from within the BHA so that's handy isnt it .
For someone like John Egan to agree to an interview with the RP it shows how bad things are ,I knew it was coming and thought it was going to be far stronger but what's been said by him is spot on. " Theres just to much " hes said ,and that sums it up . Yet no one at the BHA seems to grasp that fact.
The staff situation now is by far the worst I've ever known it in 50 plus years , yet Harrington harps on about bloody diversity yet again as though that's so bloody vital . The fact that trainers are leading up their own horses and driving the box escapes her as shes as invisible as Phelps was ,get out around the yards for gods sake ,you might learn something.
Staff are being pushed to the limit by this constant racing roundabout of dross that suits the one industry that's milking the sport. Top class staff are getting out of the game ,who is going to replace them. You can earn bloody good money riding 3 or 4 lots a morning working casually now and be home by 11am with no responsibility and have a family life.
It's not as if the BHA have not been warned is it. Richard Hughes is no fool and hes had a right go but it seems to fall on deaf ,or is it just thick,ears .
Would any of them work from 5am until 10pm and be back in next morning to repeat the process ,would they fuck. Yet that's what's happening daily. It's just bloody ridiculous.
@Dilton I notice Hancock has been notably quiet recently amidst all the debate about racing's finances, staff shortages, gambling review, prize money, scheduling and all the rest of it. He was very keen to flaunt his Newmarket contacts in racing as the town's MP when he was the embattled health secretary trying to dispel the stench of corruption around the award of PPE contracts. A nice diversionary tactic. Now he is seeking to reposition himself as the future of the Tory party he doesn't need any arguments about racing to queer the pitch.
@Harrytheactor I try not to judge people I've never met but Hancock tests me on that.
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@David You mention the Premiership, David and this made be consider the role of the bookies in relation to that sport. Now we know that racing is primarily governed by the influence of the betting industry and this led to the increase in meetings and substandard racing. The major controlling influence of the Premiership is TV, rather than the bookies. Of course they use TV overtly for advertising their product, but they do not have such an influence on the sport.
Now let’s consider from the most recent figures that were released them where the income from the betting industry from football was just under 47%. From racing it was 23%. Then consider how much TV pays for them football rights.
The bookies will bleed racing dry and when it’s gone to the dogs they still have football.
Lost is a curious one. At 59 she must be one of the lowest-rated horses at Ballydoyle. She has had three quick runs in maidens to achieve that mark; she has faced 41 rivals and beaten just four of them. Now stepping up to 10f and wearing a tongue tie, plus persuading Ryan to stay on till the last race of the night - is this her Oaks? Has Aidan been studying the Prescott playbook?
Rihani looks a big price at 16/1 in the last at Leopardstown.
Gats and Co won at 6 to 5
De barley basket won 9/4.
Congratulations to GForce on winning the May tipping contest.
I did have 1 winner in May Additional 9/1 on the 22nd to go with the 1 winner in April (I'm consistent, in some sort of way!!).
NAP Coill Na Soinainne 6.50 Leopardstown , c.14/1 as I scrawl.....
Danby Wiske 20:10 Chelm EW Nap
Beryl Burton - 17.45 Redcar
Gats Co in the 18.25 at Ffos Las.
6.15 Leopardstown - Cadillac
Think I need a breathalyser test as I’m going against not one but two GForce selections in the 16.45 at Redcar! Turntable is my nap.
Roach Power 3.20L
I'm torn between Pride of America who won by the proverbial street so you can't truly measure the improvement and
Nap Redcar 1645 Baryshnikov
who is better in on earlier form. Might yet back them both.
De barley basket 2.52U.
Fleursals 4.37 Uttoxeter is the nap,well done yesterdays winners.It is goood to see Tinto enjoying his change of stable and coming back to his best form.
WOWZERS Leicester 15.20.
Apologies for the double post.
John Egan’s comments were spot on. He may have gone further as we do not know what was edited out.
I have banged on many times about the industry being run solely for the benefit of the bookies.
British horse racing is a Serpent’s Tail and Egan’s analogy with dog racing is spot on.
You can tell how bad the racing is by simply considering how difficult it is some days to put up a nap on this blog.
I doubt that many of us actually back what we put up each day.
I can’t see a solution, because the only one is a withdrawal of services by owners and trainers. Don’t enter your horses for substandard races and meetings. However, this will never happen because it needs 100% commitment and there will be those who seek to take advantage by still running.
However, imagine cards where there are 7 races of walkovers. The industry would have to react then.
The rower officially left the BHA yesterday and duly got the customary praise dished out for " the outstanding contribution etc etc " when in fact she was as much use to the game as Pogba was to Utd whose also gone after costing a bomb for little or no return similarly.Her replacement has been sourced from within the BHA so that's handy isnt it .
For someone like John Egan to agree to an interview with the RP it shows how bad things are ,I knew it was coming and thought it was going to be far stronger but what's been said by him is spot on. " Theres just to much " hes said ,and that sums it up . Yet no one at the BHA seems to grasp that fact.
The staff situation now is by far the worst I've ever known it in 50 plus years , yet Harrington harps on about bloody diversity yet again as though that's so bloody vital . The fact that trainers are leading up their own horses and driving the box escapes her as shes as invisible as Phelps was ,get out around the yards for gods sake ,you might learn something.
Staff are being pushed to the limit by this constant racing roundabout of dross that suits the one industry that's milking the sport. Top class staff are getting out of the game ,who is going to replace them. You can earn bloody good money riding 3 or 4 lots a morning working casually now and be home by 11am with no responsibility and have a family life.
It's not as if the BHA have not been warned is it. Richard Hughes is no fool and hes had a right go but it seems to fall on deaf ,or is it just thick,ears .
Would any of them work from 5am until 10pm and be back in next morning to repeat the process ,would they fuck. Yet that's what's happening daily. It's just bloody ridiculous.
Wakey wakey .
Central city nap (13:00)
I have done a Sue Magnier double of Useless in the 17.05 and Lost in the 20.20 at Leopardstown.
My nap however is Patrick Sarsfield in the 18.15.
Jean Baptiste. Redcar 5.15.